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When a Syndicate project begins, most often there is a 3rd party collaborator...whether that be an artist, pro skateboarder, store, or brand. Generally speaking, they will have a vision and bring that to the table. They will have an idea of what they want to skate, what materials to use, overall what they want their shoe to look like. It is the designer who is responsible for the end product...they most often visit the 3rd party on their own turf, hang out, hear about those visions, read between the lines a little bit, and ultimately work together to create a truly collaborative product that speaks from the soul of the concept. This is a somewhat magic process, never repeated the same way twice.
If I may speculate and rant a little bit....But what about the internal projects in between those much hyped releases? The stories we may not necessarily know? Some of the least hyped models, the ones that sometimes slip through the cracks of blogs, those are often the ones that end up being the most popular and sought after longterm. From my point of view, when a designer is assigned a task and creates something from scratch, the inspiration and reason still comes from them, but it is much more about attracting a certain audience and creating a hit. It needs to be trending, and current… ahead, but not TOO ahead… So we start at a slightly different place than we do when we have a collaborative release….but where do we end up? The shoe is still created by an artist…we just don't always know their name. They have to answer to someone in-house who approves, and ultimately the consumer. For a larger line, such as Vans Classics, a dud may go by unnoticed and simply not be made, or get put on sale, or go to an outlet. But Syndicate has a different level of pressure. It is regarded and held to a higher standard. Each edition is poured over on message boards, blogs, etc, and scrutinized from every angle. In this modern age, shoes are leaked and deemed worthless 6 months before they even release. There is a focused audience to answer to. At an average of one project release per month within the Vans Syndicate line, nothing sneaks by enthusiasts.
Somehow Vans Syndicate is able to take this in stride. They look to the past and create for the future. They are able to keep their finger on the pulse of their audience, with very few misses, if any, along the way. The following is a brief conversation with
Neal, thank you for taking the time to sit down and discuss a little bit of the process a Syndicate internal project goes through. Just very quickly so we have a frame of reference what kind of duties do you have in a given development season? (BRANT in GRAY)
When creating an "S" edition at the beginning of an upcoming season, what is the initial thought process? (Is the shoe chosen initially at a meeting -- such as, we need a low top, how about an Authentic……we've released too many Old Skools this year, etc) We want to know about what liberties and restrictions you have.
Pictured above, I have 3 different sampled versions...The highlighted difference here being the heel pull, which has customers frothing at the mouth. How many samples do you generally go through before you get it right? How did you come about wanting to add the heel pull? I know that the W)taps Authentic 69 "S" was originally conceived and sampled with one, and it was removed…so can you elaborate on the thought process and reasoning of this feature for this release, and some of the other features in general?
So, with the feedback we had been getting on the Jazz Stripe stuff, I wanted to do the same thing to the Authentic, I love that shoe in the classic colors and they're great to skate in if you can find them in suede, but the canvas pairs usually blow out too quick. It was essentially the same approach as the Jazz Stripe's- We had Dill, Chima, Dan Lutheran and other team guys / friends asking us for Syndicate versions of the Authentic as well. This is where the first sample came in, but they were still too simple aside from all the slight changes: DRi-LEX® lining, PU footbed, leather binding, clean first foxing, light grey stitching, nickel eyelets; which got a poor reception in our line reviews, but with good reason. A pack of plain Authentics that don't look very much different than Classics except that they are all suede and more expensive? We had to change them, they looked too blah. So the second sample came about because I was working with Mike Hill the same season and the mint Authentics that Mike did were based on his skate shoes. 8 months out of the year Mike is wearing these gnarly green snow boots, he lives in what some might consider rural Ohio where boots are a necessity, but if he's skating he's been wearing these mint green, Made in the USA, Authentics that he's had for 20+ years that have that heel strip.
Were the first samples cow suede? I know the final release is pig….care to elaborate on your preference of suede types? And then to touch back upon the tonal checkerboard that also came in later in sampling? How did that happen?
Although this shoe is a simple Authentic at heart, and fairly mellow at first glance, it has a LOT of technical details that you've elaborated on. Besides the ones we mentioned, there is the great PU ultracush insole, and the DRi-LEX® lining that we have been accustomed to now for a few seasons within Syndicate. The other thing I was excited to see was the Scotchgard™ hangtag attached….
Colorways?
Are there any last minute tweaks we may see that were not in the final salesman's sample, that we can look forward to?
Just to wrap it up, I know I've asked you in person about which shoes you are excited about most this spring…..did you mention this one? Do you generally prefer things you've created personally, or do you look toward others designs, or stick with the classics?
I don't necessarily prefer things I've created, but it seems every season there is one or two that I've done that I really want to wear. Most of the time I prefer the more understated shoes, simple basics, oh and I also love a good Aloha print.
Neal, thank you for your time and insight into your world!
PROJECT: 022.134
STYLE: AUTHENTIC 69 PRO “S”
COLOR: RED / WHITE
MTL #: VN-0SDMY52
RELEASE DATE: FEBRUARY 2013
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